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the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s. let's stay angry about furbies an parachute pants. look, we need to give them an ultimatum. stop supporting terror or no more aid. >> stephen: easy now, buddy. this is a partnership, just like you and me. we're partners. but that doesn't mean you get to decide who my other friends are. >> stephen: i just think jill's a pitch. >> stephen: we're not having this conversation again. >> stephen: the point is, some of my other friends like to do things that you don't like to do. like skiing, or trying to kill you. >> stephen: but that has nothing to do with our friendship. >> stephen: wait, one of your friends wants to kill me? >> stephen: no. >> stephen: yay, me, stephen albert. >> stephen: wait, where did he come from. >> stephen: well, he was standing next to me but i was not hiding him. i just didn't notice or was hiding him. >> stephen: i want to kill you for your freedom. >> stephen: well t
the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s. let's stay angry about furbies an parachute pants. look, we need to give them an ultimatum. stop supporting terror or no more aid. >> stephen: easy now, buddy. this is a partnership, just like you and me. we're partners. but that doesn't mean you get to decide who my other friends are. >> stephen: i just think jill's a pitch....
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kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said, what are you nuts? all you're going to do is get both sides angry at you. so the administration has stayed away from that as the bush administration did, you know, kind of like it's poison, and that's probably the right policy. so the notion that this council could actually do much other than, you know, throw a few cocktail parties and actually influence u.s. policy, boy, what a waste of money. jon: all right. jim carafano from the heritage foundation. read more from him on foxnews.com on this topic. jim, thank you. jenna: new developments surrounding oper
kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said,...
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where was pakistan at that time? in some ways this beak is also a book about america and pakistan, america and islam, so, you know, i don't want to sort of lose sight of those aspects of the book in, you know, in the fine grain because she is a vehicle for a lot of these sort of meditations, but as to the question of what i decided to do with her letters. i felt it was important for -- to have her as a vehicle for the reader to experience her letters, you know, with immediacy in her own words rather than me paraphrasing them or, you know, saying, you know, well, she says that she graduated from high school in 1953, but actually it was 1952. i find that correcting voice as a biographer is very distancing, and i wanted the readers to feel about her the way i felt about her when i first started reading the letters, to be completely sucked into her world, and, you know, if i, you know, had said at the outset that, you know, that she was institutionalized, then you know people will just say she's crazy and not have to wre
where was pakistan at that time? in some ways this beak is also a book about america and pakistan, america and islam, so, you know, i don't want to sort of lose sight of those aspects of the book in, you know, in the fine grain because she is a vehicle for a lot of these sort of meditations, but as to the question of what i decided to do with her letters. i felt it was important for -- to have her as a vehicle for the reader to experience her letters, you know, with immediacy in her own words...
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but i have to go to pakistan. and one element of the story that i haven't really discussed so much as they demand that invited mary ann to margaret barker is to come up with him and his family in pakistan. and this man is like, what condi was to india, this man was to pakistan. but this is another question at the heart of the book. why did this incredibly powerful islamic political leader invited to jewish girl that he had been corresponding with for a year to live with them as his daughter. i mean, here he had nine children, but is inviting yet another woman to his house in pakistan. so it's one thing to sort of go back and forth as to who marion gmail it is, but then you need the historical context. where was pakistan at that time? influence among us, this book is also a book about america and pakistan, america and islam. so you know, i don't want to sort of loose sight of those aspects of the book and the fine-grained because marionette symbolizes a vehicle for a lot of these meditations. but as to the question
but i have to go to pakistan. and one element of the story that i haven't really discussed so much as they demand that invited mary ann to margaret barker is to come up with him and his family in pakistan. and this man is like, what condi was to india, this man was to pakistan. but this is another question at the heart of the book. why did this incredibly powerful islamic political leader invited to jewish girl that he had been corresponding with for a year to live with them as his daughter. i...
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pakistan and india disputed the status for decades. israel has stopped another ship trying to break the blockade of gaza. the navy sees the ship as part of a larger patilla as itted the coast. any supplies on board will be transferred legally to gaza. they insist on patrolling access because it said otherwise smugglers will try to ship to palestinian militants. during a random test, a veteran air traffic controller had a blood alcohol level at a center that handles air traffic for several states. a family member said he was given the chance of resigning or entering rehab and chose rehab. football star michael vick is bringing his newfound dogfighting to capitol hill. the quarterback who served 20 months in prison on a dogfighting conviction is backing proposed legislation criminalizing stick tators of those who let children watch the sport. >> i deeply regret my previous involvement in dogfighting and i'm sorry for what i did to the animals. during my time in prison, i wanted to be part of the solution and not the problem. i have been
pakistan and india disputed the status for decades. israel has stopped another ship trying to break the blockade of gaza. the navy sees the ship as part of a larger patilla as itted the coast. any supplies on board will be transferred legally to gaza. they insist on patrolling access because it said otherwise smugglers will try to ship to palestinian militants. during a random test, a veteran air traffic controller had a blood alcohol level at a center that handles air traffic for several...
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>>shepard: this is about pakistan anyway, isn't it? >>guest: well, the reason we got into this mess is because of pakistan in the 1980's and we pumped $6 million into the system creating the monsters we are fighting now. keep in mind if you step back and look at global stage the world is better but it is a direct threat against american interests overseas from islamic fundamentalist groups that use violence instead of political means. >>shepard: robert, good to hear from you. the united nations has reported 1,462 civilian deaths in six months of this year in afghanistan a 15 percent increase from the first half of 2010. in parts of the midwest in the central united states, another day of triple digit temperatures. the heat wave is a monster. i know, it's july. it's hot, but this can kill people. 17 states are now under heat warnings and we will show you warnings and we will show you all of them. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal. carol. fiber makes me
>>shepard: this is about pakistan anyway, isn't it? >>guest: well, the reason we got into this mess is because of pakistan in the 1980's and we pumped $6 million into the system creating the monsters we are fighting now. keep in mind if you step back and look at global stage the world is better but it is a direct threat against american interests overseas from islamic fundamentalist groups that use violence instead of political means. >>shepard: robert, good to hear from you....
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pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal? $800 million of aids has been suspended. >> both sides are working together on a number of things and pakistan is not happy with the pace of delivery of assistance. americans are not happy with the pace of delivery of certain deliverables from pakistan. it happens sometimes. right now because pakistan is a fledgling democracy and everything that happens there hits the media and there's an american domestic political context in which everything becomes an issue because of the way people react to your administration. this has become -- >> the reaction in pakistan to the u.s. decis
pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal?...
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he didn't have the right recipe when he came to home depo when he was trained in pakistan. thank godness for a t-shirt vendor and an incompetent terrorist. somebody will get it right. we need to be worried, don't we? >> i think we need to understand just because bin laden is dead, the war on terror is not over. if you need to know where it is going. read the book. the next phase is harder to fight. there are more americans in the ranks of al-qaida than a decade ago. they changed the recruitment strategy and we are successful in taking out the leadership. americans understand us and our system and know how to use it against us in a way that a foreign terrorist or bin laden never would . that's what makes them so dangerous. >> mike: the book is called the next wave. our audience will get a head start. you will get a copy of the next wave before you leave here today. catherine, thank you very much. it is a pleasure to have you here. >> officer smiley lost his eye sight in iraq but not his vision to lead and his drive to live life to the fullest. captain smiley and his wife are
he didn't have the right recipe when he came to home depo when he was trained in pakistan. thank godness for a t-shirt vendor and an incompetent terrorist. somebody will get it right. we need to be worried, don't we? >> i think we need to understand just because bin laden is dead, the war on terror is not over. if you need to know where it is going. read the book. the next phase is harder to fight. there are more americans in the ranks of al-qaida than a decade ago. they changed the...
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is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both sides, finger pointing, accusations. this is more than rhetoric. i think things changed after the raid on the bin laden compound here in pakistan in may. this was viewed by many here in pakistan as an embarrassment for the country and the military. it was viewed as a violation of pakistan's sovereignty by people here. ever since then, both sides have made moves that have substantially changed the complexion of this relationship. $800 million in cash and military equipment. the message here is we are not happy with the effort you are making. if you want to cont
is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both...
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and, therefore, we are stuck with a pakistan because i fear we withdraw, which? pakistan loses. oil we entice pakistan in various ways into collaborating in a stage withdrawal. so, this comes to the point that it really doesn't matter what happened in the past. if our goal is to somehow exit afghanistan without attempting to occupy it which is not a choice. we must deal with pakistan. i mean, who else can we? >> host: the question is not dealing with pakistan so much as what is the longer-term outcome in terms of are they going to come away from wherever we end up with a new status quo in afghanistan, we commit to the campaign of undermining their neighbor next door in india. that's -- >> guest: we can avoid that by staying in afghanistan permanently. or live with it. so here's exactly how i approach the foreign policy issue. you pose the question, if pakistan comes to be secure in afghanistan, we can destabilize india? may well. shall be therefore state permit in afghanistan? how do we prevent that? what i come to say yeah, i think pakistan and india have reasons to distrust ea
and, therefore, we are stuck with a pakistan because i fear we withdraw, which? pakistan loses. oil we entice pakistan in various ways into collaborating in a stage withdrawal. so, this comes to the point that it really doesn't matter what happened in the past. if our goal is to somehow exit afghanistan without attempting to occupy it which is not a choice. we must deal with pakistan. i mean, who else can we? >> host: the question is not dealing with pakistan so much as what is the...
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which operates openly in pakistan. a vast array of groups with the same ideology of al qaeda and we have to go after them just as much. >>dave: what role did pakistani play in this and are they our friend or foe? >>guest: the l.e.t. operate a huge infrastructure in magazine stage and bragged they have 200 facilities operating in pakistan and they have charity schools and pakistan does nothing about it. >>dave: and the funding of the military, we have cut off the military funding. is pakistan saying you need to start the money flowing again here? or we will in the help you? >>guest: that is the direction they are moving. i expect a rise in the attacks in afghanistan or to bring that message home, you need us i >>dave: and how big a concern is an attack in the united states on the 10th anniversary? >>guest: this is the first anniversary a sense of celebration and resolution and every member of al qaeda is going to want to spoil that. so you will have home green terrorists that will look at that date. >>dave: so all eyes
which operates openly in pakistan. a vast array of groups with the same ideology of al qaeda and we have to go after them just as much. >>dave: what role did pakistani play in this and are they our friend or foe? >>guest: the l.e.t. operate a huge infrastructure in magazine stage and bragged they have 200 facilities operating in pakistan and they have charity schools and pakistan does nothing about it. >>dave: and the funding of the military, we have cut off the military...
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of the other high-level officials within al qaeda and obviously this drone campaign been ongoing in pakistan and some cases yemen, we've taken out something like 1200 fighters from al qaeda including senior leaders. jon: right. >> this is all good news. but again the ideology of radical islam lives on and so do these affiliate groups. that is the challenge ahead of us. jon: if you take out those leaders, and we have been very successful in doing that, if you take out people who have experience going back to the russian-afghan war, take out the people who know how to motivate and organization and maybe build a bomb be, pretty soon you're left with bunch of 18, 20-year-old kids who may have the desire but don't necessarily have the knowledge to continue terrorism campaign? >> well, you know i think you could make that argument but you could also argue you have a number of people who gained experience in afghanistan. people who have gained experience and by the way, fighting in this more recent war, not in the war in the 1980s against the soviets. but rather fighting against the united states a
of the other high-level officials within al qaeda and obviously this drone campaign been ongoing in pakistan and some cases yemen, we've taken out something like 1200 fighters from al qaeda including senior leaders. jon: right. >> this is all good news. but again the ideology of radical islam lives on and so do these affiliate groups. that is the challenge ahead of us. jon: if you take out those leaders, and we have been very successful in doing that, if you take out people who have...
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gives to pakistan in security and aid each other. in syria, government supporters smashed windows at the embassy in manassas. apparently, this was in response to the operation pit together by "fred goss." >>> there two -- there are two new studies about second-hand smoking and learning problems, and adhd. they say kids between the ages of 8 and 13 that have a negative opinion of the smell of cigarette smoke, are 70% -- are 70% less to smoke later. ice land's former health minister proposed 24 bill to encourage smokers to get the help of their doctors to fit. one toe back toe shop owner says they are -- says they are not happy about the bill. this spill part of a ten-year plan to -- bill is part of a ten-year. the parliament still needs to vote on this bill. >>> city council will discussed issue of plastic containers at tonight's meeting. environmentists say the foam containers often up as -- often end up as litter and can be i -- and can be invested -- ingested by wildlife. >>> both loyals and targets are carrying -- >>> jc -- jaycee
gives to pakistan in security and aid each other. in syria, government supporters smashed windows at the embassy in manassas. apparently, this was in response to the operation pit together by "fred goss." >>> there two -- there are two new studies about second-hand smoking and learning problems, and adhd. they say kids between the ages of 8 and 13 that have a negative opinion of the smell of cigarette smoke, are 70% -- are 70% less to smoke later. ice land's former health...
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in the balance of thirty three million or so in pakistan they hate karzai even though he's a pashtun he is seen as a traitor his family is inextricably intertwined with much of the corruption and narcotics trafficking that is going on in afghanistan remember that under the taliban the narcotics trafficking was ten percent of what it is today so this is more like a mafia hit then it's a little bit and then that's that's a nation of a supported public figure you have a disses this is personal the pashtun want karzai and his family out ok so what does obama does the second letter what does obama want out of pakistan just now threatening to withdraw up to the eight hundred million dollars in military aid what's he trying to get out of them but i'm not sure he's the one who's driving it as much as it is probably of secretary of state clinton. who they are hoping that they can intimidate the pakistani government to cooperate more closely with us against elements inside their own country and afghanistan it's absurd pakistan has no interest in doing that most of the people that we're fightin
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and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both sides, because here at home, you have political pressure from congress. as part of the new defense spending bill, the secretary of defense and the secretary of state have to sort of write a report on exactly where this money is going before congress sort of loosens the purse strings and authorizes that money to go to pakistan. and on their side, their military was humiliated by that bin laden raid. there's a lot of pressure on the pakistan side to sort of stand firm and be tough with the u.s. at this point. >> interesting to see what develo
and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both...
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. >> you think that pakistan and our -- safe haven and afghanistan for these so-called terrorist. >> that was acward . then in the guest book in westminister abbey can i give you my theory on that. >> it is a number of solutions for any given problem. >> i hate to get too da vinci code. may 24, 2008 trandsalates five, plus two is 7 . 7 plus four is 11 . two zeros keep it at 13 . eight makes it 21. he was telling us he got lucky with the queen. >> totally crazy. i don't want to consider that, miller. i don't think about that. >> back up theory. he signed 2008 and by the time it reads back to dc. >> he put me off with the queen line. >> coming up. undercover stings. are they ethical. jon stossel on that. and america's news quiz. [ male announcer ] this is larry... whose long day starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol arthritis and maybe up to s in a day... or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. happy chopping. you're gonna have the hottest car on the block. [ airplane engine rumbles show me the carfax. yeah, show me the carfax we...we ran out. what? jus
. >> you think that pakistan and our -- safe haven and afghanistan for these so-called terrorist. >> that was acward . then in the guest book in westminister abbey can i give you my theory on that. >> it is a number of solutions for any given problem. >> i hate to get too da vinci code. may 24, 2008 trandsalates five, plus two is 7 . 7 plus four is 11 . two zeros keep it at 13 . eight makes it 21. he was telling us he got lucky with the queen. >> totally crazy. i...
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did north korea's rush lead it to pakistan? a secret letter that might hold some clues is in the hands of a washington reporter. >>> a court hearing this howard for jared loughner. his doctors say he's dangerous even behind bars. >>> in bring, the popular "news of the world" is done after this sunday, but the investigation is not over, and journalists aren't the only target of investigators. you're in "the situation room." >>> a lot of hard bargaining ahead as the president and congressional leaders try to hammer out a deal on raising the federal debt limit as the august 2nd deadline looms, most parties are firming up their bottom lines. joining me now is senator tom coburn from oklahoma. senator, i know that you have today pentagon with speaker boehner about the republican position, or at least his position going into these debt talks. what can you tell me about where you are now when it comes to the revenue side of this equation? >> well, i think speaker boehner related that everything is on the table. i think it should be. i
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involvement in afghanistan, pakistan and iraq has cost up to 4 trillion dollars over the past decade. your reaction to that? >> i think that study is badly flawed for a number of reasons. it's counting costs we would have incurred anyway for the existence of the military. it does focus on the potential explosion of medical costs. that is something i think even defenders of the defense department have said for some time that is an area of cost cutting we ought to be looking at. badly flawed but there are points worth taking into account going forward. >> gregg: unless anyone thinks we forgets, more than 6,000 american lives in various wars over the past decade, hundreds of thousands have been injured. ambassador john bolton, happy independence day and thank you so much for taking the time. >> thank you. happy 4th. >> heather: it appears that new york city's budget woes are far-reaching. the city will have to shut down the swimming pools and summertime programs. david lee miller looks how the money crisis will hit the youngest residents? >> we're not just talking about new york city, a
involvement in afghanistan, pakistan and iraq has cost up to 4 trillion dollars over the past decade. your reaction to that? >> i think that study is badly flawed for a number of reasons. it's counting costs we would have incurred anyway for the existence of the military. it does focus on the potential explosion of medical costs. that is something i think even defenders of the defense department have said for some time that is an area of cost cutting we ought to be looking at. badly...
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he was based on the border with pakistan and afghanistan in september of 2009 and a scout sniper at the time. his unit was on route to meet elders and they were ambushed and he was hit with shrapnel but he tried five times end fire to try and find three missing marines and one navy corpsman and when he did reach them they had been shot and they were stripped of their gear but he still managed underfire in the kill zone to carry each of them out so that they could be taken home, given a proper burial, and it is a bittersweet ending for corporal meyer who lives in austin, texas and was given a call by president obama on monday to be told that he would receive this honor. >>shepard: and reluctant hero. >> absolutely, the marine corps times interviewed him in november and he like so many others showed remarkable humility of the recipients. take a listen. >> i feel we are the furthest from a hero, and i went in there to do a job and the way i view it, i let those goes down, but the war would be for them and for the corps, for the marines and for marines who did not recognized because there w
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she took a sisterly -- in pakistan. even in this day and age imagine what it took for her to pull off a trip to pakistan and india. she did that with great aplomb. her first trip abroad as first lady with her husband in an official statement to paris and at that time president kennedy famously said let me introduce myself. i am the man who accompanied jacqueline kennedy to paris and i have enjoyed it. he was again a bit in the background because she was so beautiful and she spoke perfect french. she spent her junior year abroad in paris. she spoke fluent french and he doesn't look prickly to me. he looks charmed and happy. she is wearing as the muffin down. she would try to wear american designers when she was in america and only cassini when he had european routes was viewed as american by the 1960s so he was her primary stylist here but she fought when in paris do as the parisians and the french would do which is why she chose this gorgeous gown. in the bodice you might be able to see that she had embroidered flowers,
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it becomes all the more so now that relations between pakistan and the u.s. have become so fraught and tangled. >> very interesting. thank you very much. back to our main story tonight, tickets to tomorrows a counter to see rupert murdoch, james murdoch, and the committee, he might have more tickets than they let the games, but what will the committee want to know? days do not get much bigger for committee members then tomorrow, do they? >> no, it is a rather dramatic it. it is like one of those days where you have the streak of back-to-back football matches on television. we saw a bit after 12:00 with paul stevenson resigning last night at the home affairs committee. then at all switches to the culture committee, starting off with a double header. rupert murdoch, his son, followed by rebecca birks. it is going to be the most interesting moment. strongest thing is that in 42 years, all the newspapers in this country, rupert murdoch's has never answered questions from our economy select committee. the committee is going to meet and decide thinking being that i
it becomes all the more so now that relations between pakistan and the u.s. have become so fraught and tangled. >> very interesting. thank you very much. back to our main story tonight, tickets to tomorrows a counter to see rupert murdoch, james murdoch, and the committee, he might have more tickets than they let the games, but what will the committee want to know? days do not get much bigger for committee members then tomorrow, do they? >> no, it is a rather dramatic it. it is like...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...
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drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our relationship with the pakistanis. i think this going public with the cut in the military aid package is an expression of frustration that the private efforts have not succeeded. i would like to suggest that we need a game changer here. the pakistanis have been worried about india for years. that drives their policy in afghanistan and even in pakistan. i think if we could ratchet up efforts to convene a regional conference, peace conference, including china, russia, india and then the countries in the ren region, including iran, we h
drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our...
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in addition, pakistan is a conduit to get weapons in to fight the taliban. it is a thorny issue in the one that we have to work out. to cut up pakistan immediately would be a mistake. host: greg, independent line. caller: as long as the budget is an issue, eliminate the patriots back, homeland security, the police. fire those people. fire them right now. get the money from there. no one was concerned about the budget when bush was fighting a war on two fronts. i was in the national guard and the marines. i did not go the last three times because my son came back. the national guard, it is a good thing i did not go, because all 11 people -- 20 people -- 26 people were killed and injured in that unit. so, eliminate those guys. host: i think we get your point. the guest: i am very sorry. i can tell that you are emotional about this. i am sorry about your friends and bodies that were killed. that is a problem that we hope will come to a conclusion very quickly. the threat to the world and the united states is still very real. everyone has an opinion on where we
in addition, pakistan is a conduit to get weapons in to fight the taliban. it is a thorny issue in the one that we have to work out. to cut up pakistan immediately would be a mistake. host: greg, independent line. caller: as long as the budget is an issue, eliminate the patriots back, homeland security, the police. fire those people. fire them right now. get the money from there. no one was concerned about the budget when bush was fighting a war on two fronts. i was in the national guard and...
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when he joins the cia he will have to deal with the problem that is pakistan itself. relations are at an all time low between the two countries. he didn't appear to have a clear strategy of how he is going to do that. that will be his number one job and task when he gets back to washington. >> reporter: from one come phra indicate job he goes to another. thanks so much. rick: quick break. when we come back talk about fireworks, or the possibility of them. a constitutional end run to break the stalemate over raising the debt ceiling. some democrats think president obama should actually bypass congress and hike america's credit limit all by himself? is that a good idea, is it legal? a fair & balanced debate is ahead. >> reporter: the jury in the casey anthony murder trial, it's over and they are in deliberations. judge alex ferrer breaks down for us what the jury is probably doing right now as we await a verdict. >> whose life was better? that's the only question you need to answer in considering why caylee marie anthony was left on the side of the road dead. jamie: a b
when he joins the cia he will have to deal with the problem that is pakistan itself. relations are at an all time low between the two countries. he didn't appear to have a clear strategy of how he is going to do that. that will be his number one job and task when he gets back to washington. >> reporter: from one come phra indicate job he goes to another. thanks so much. rick: quick break. when we come back talk about fireworks, or the possibility of them. a constitutional end run to break...
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if some of the late in wasn't pakistan, then -- was in pakistan, then let's cut off assistance to pakistan. for every hamlet, there is a nail. the truth is -- for every hammer, there is a nail. the truth is, it has not always work. we would like it just to have that relationship. but cutting off aid to influence policy has not usually worked. that said, congress will listen to your military leaders, listen to the administration. after all, as a student of the united states history and as someone who had myers america's founding principles -- who admirers of america's founding principles, i do believe that there was a reason that the founding fathers and the author of the american constitution led foreign policy to be the richer -- the jurisdiction-- the actuae done by the legislative branch. elected officials and members of congress, who make a lot effort now in this day and age to try and understand other countries -- their primary effort is to understand -- i understand their own constituents. many of the constituents in the congress have been supportive. i respect them for asking the qu
if some of the late in wasn't pakistan, then -- was in pakistan, then let's cut off assistance to pakistan. for every hamlet, there is a nail. the truth is -- for every hammer, there is a nail. the truth is, it has not always work. we would like it just to have that relationship. but cutting off aid to influence policy has not usually worked. that said, congress will listen to your military leaders, listen to the administration. after all, as a student of the united states history and as...
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and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the figures what difference does it make whether it's 54 or 94 or 150. you met with the governor of texas, rick perry. what was that about? >> nothing. he wanted to meet. maybe exchange views on what it would be. >> did you get the impression he is thinking of running for president? >> well, i think i did, yes. >> you think he will? >> you need to ask him, but i did get that impression. >> i agree and i think he will run, but i haven't met with him. you came away from the meeting thinking he is going to run? >> yes. >> let's talk about you a little bit. how do you feel? >> i hope i am
and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the...
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babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they hang them? >> they hang them and sometimes they're killed by knife and sometimes we find dead bodies that have been burned. >> reporter: a manager at pakistan's largest privately run social service and relief agency. at call centers like this, aid workers receive reports of more than 1,200 newborns and infants killed or left to die in pakistan last year, up 200 from 2009. the tiny corpses that are found end up in this morgue here. these five were found within the past few days, all of them double play pd around karachi. it's hard to believe that wrapped inside these sheets are newborns that never had a chance. a
babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they...
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>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must read opinion pages. we start with "the new york times" negotiating on a knife's edge. mr. obama, this is the paper's editorial and it says this. mr. obama might want to consider the advice of several constitutional scholars who say congress may not be able to put the govern in -- such a declaration would lead to litigation or attempts to impeachment. if republicans reach a deal or if democrats will not support it because it leans too heavily on the less fortunate, the constitutional option may look better than the recession option. people are worried about where the country is going. >> j-o-b-s. i
>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must...
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pakistan? where would you focus your attention? >> pakistan's an important challenge. there's not much we can do about it. we've tried all sorts of things there and nothing seems to work. i would say revitalizing our relationships in asia and the pacific. that's where history the going to be written in the 21st surgeriry. i would say involved there. better relations with ind ka ya with the countries of southeast asia. doing something about our energy situation that we're less vulnerable on vagaries of price and supply that would go a long way. again, i'd focus more at home on competitiveness, on improving our immigration policy. on the quality of our schools. on the quality of our transportation infrastructure and so forth. again, we have got to retore the foundations of american power. that's a prerequisite if we're going to lead in the world either by what we do or our example. >> restoration is the theme. i hope it's the subject of the next book. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, andrea. >> it's very provocative richard. >>> a word of warning the images you'
pakistan? where would you focus your attention? >> pakistan's an important challenge. there's not much we can do about it. we've tried all sorts of things there and nothing seems to work. i would say revitalizing our relationships in asia and the pacific. that's where history the going to be written in the 21st surgeriry. i would say involved there. better relations with ind ka ya with the countries of southeast asia. doing something about our energy situation that we're less vulnerable...
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there is a route that comes through these areas, coming from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. and this goes farther into the larger cities. but they also use this to bring in a equipment to tackle the coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area, with the most local populace. this is a center for trade and commerce in the area. and these provinces where nato has not had much of a presence until quite recently, these are the border provinces that only began getting a large number of troops in the past year. the population is not very friendly to the coalition. so the population will harbor fighters for the taliban, and they will hold weapons for them and are aware of taliban movements. the approach for this province is to target, in a sense, the civilian populations. not with violence, but when they need intelligence -- you have to visit houses. you have to march out to where they are concentrated, to start knocking on doors, demanding to be let in. they will break the door down. but you knock on the door, trying to be as friendly a
there is a route that comes through these areas, coming from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. and this goes farther into the larger cities. but they also use this to bring in a equipment to tackle the coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area, with the most local populace. this is a center for trade and commerce in the area. and these provinces where nato has not had much of a presence until quite recently, these are the border provinces that only...
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yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what have you noticed a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're covering the surge i have now at west point well it certainly sounds like what the american people would like to hear for the first time ever a majority want u.s. troops out of afghanistan as soon as possible fifty six percent or thirty nine percent want troops there until the situation is stabilized you can see the trend is really flip flopped but what is the reality of obama's plans for troop withdrawal that thirty three thousand he's calling for is a minority of the one hundred thousand american troops that are there that's not including another forty two thousand some nato troops and ninety t
yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what have you noticed a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're...
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and pakistan are getting out that washington is suspending aid money to pakistan third pascal by move for a fact already poisonous relationship between the two countries. into it only when there was a mechanism to do the work to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then he's in something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid. i think. one well. we have the government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you give them their freedom. well there's a few that's growing in the small town of courts arizona see there is a very sharp divisions there between mayor ed foster the city council and the police department in the area of the fighting has finally reached the pinnacle with the city now being put under
and pakistan are getting out that washington is suspending aid money to pakistan third pascal by move for a fact already poisonous relationship between the two countries. into it only when there was a mechanism to do the work to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you...
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finally let me turn to pakistan. we all accept the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tackling violent extreme as in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps he has taken for british support of counter-terrorism in pakistan at the heart of our relationship to the pakistan government. we all want to see british troops come home at the earliest opportunity, not least all the families and friends of those who are currently serving in afghanistan. we also want to see the campaign concluded in a way that ensures their service and sacrifice has not been in vain and afghanistan and a wider region moves into a stable future rather than once again posing a serious threat to our security and
finally let me turn to pakistan. we all accept the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tackling violent extreme as in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps...
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part pressure to get pakistan to do more. part retaliation because pakist pakistan threw out a lot of army trainers after the u.s. killed osama bin laden. it's because they threw out these trainers they can't have this aid because you really comes as a package deal. u.s. personnel on the ground. you have to play, if you want us to pay, don. >> so, elise, how serious is this riff between afghanistan and islam bad? >> it's gradually decreasing. a lot for fit for tat and what is going to happen next now that the u.s. reduced this aid. what are the pakistanis going to do? the u.s. is already very concerned that it can't trust the pakistani military and the pakistani intelligence with the information they're giving them about the milmilitants. so, a big concern right now and you'll see a lot of the u.s. going it alone, such as these drone strikes. >> could this backfire and limit u.s. leverage over pakistan on counterterrorism cooperation? >> it certainly could, but things are pretty bad as they are. i think the calculation by u.s
part pressure to get pakistan to do more. part retaliation because pakist pakistan threw out a lot of army trainers after the u.s. killed osama bin laden. it's because they threw out these trainers they can't have this aid because you really comes as a package deal. u.s. personnel on the ground. you have to play, if you want us to pay, don. >> so, elise, how serious is this riff between afghanistan and islam bad? >> it's gradually decreasing. a lot for fit for tat and what is going...
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we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it ends up biting them. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves up to his manager, keith davies, who was down the hall selling shoebat's anti--islam books. when cnn had specific questions about the business, like perhaps the names of the high-ranking generals and experts he said are on his board of advisors, well, shoebat said get the names from davies. >> walid said that you would be able to tell us about your advisory board. you guys said you have generals and other high-ranking officials? >> correct, yeah. >> can you tell us who they are? >> off the top of my head, yes. let me see. i'm trying to think. the name's gone blank. it will come back to me in a second. major general -- i can't remember the name. fo
we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it ends up biting them. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves up to his manager,...